In this episode we explore the power of storytelling and complete the arc of our first five episodes: science communication and perception of the deep sea. 

We talk with multiple New York Times bestseller Susan Casey about telling a good story and engaging people with a narrative, while still being scientifically accurate. Don Walsh is kind enough to record his thoughts on the importance of good storytellers, which of course also contains yet another story we never knew about Don.

Storytelling is an incredibly powerful tool, but it can be a difficult one to wield. Alan talks of some experiences where the public perception of a story was not what was expected but also the risk of not telling the story and of assumptions being made.

We have our regular returning segments: Recent news, which seems very squiddy this episode; tails from the high seas, where Alan is imprisoned in a seaman’s mission; and Thom tries out a new segment about the history of some deep-sea animal names.